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Guy Dudebro's avatar

I wonder how Bill feels about North America having no diversity at all for most of its history and then BAM the Native American population dropped from 100% to like 10% in just a few generations. What progress! He must be so proud

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Boflys's avatar

Sam Harris discredit himself long ago. He’s a loon.

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The Futurist Right's avatar

And yet one that before his TDS, had shown far more honor in dealing with many of the real third rails in politics than most Conservatives have or ever will. He defended Charles Murray publicly for Christ's sake! It's a real pity what happened to him.

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Boflys's avatar

Oh I agree 100%! I enjoyed his genius for years. It’s perplexing how people that smart can seem to be so ignorant. Maybe when you get to his level and a wrong idea creeps in you think you’re so smart you must be right?

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Joe Keysor's avatar

Richard Dawkins talking about "Moral duty"? That's a bad joke. I thought we were just survival machines controlled by our selfish genes. What on earth does sympathy for the afflicted have to to with Darwinism. Doesn't Dawkins think that poor people dying is just survival of the fittest in action?

Also, Trump's ban was not a ban on Muslims. It was a ban on people from seven predominantly Muslim countries - Iran, Iraq, Libya, Somalia, Sudan, Syria, and Yemen–and it also suspended the resettlement of all Syrian refugees. This was because of security issues including poor documentation from those countries. It was not a ban on Muslims at all, since Muslims from many other countries were allowed to come as usual.

"Nevertheless, on June 26, 2018, the Supreme Court, in a 5-4 opinion, ultimately allowed a third version of the executive order to go into force, which expanded the list of barred travelers to include nationals from Venezuela (limited to government officials) and North Korea. In 2020, the Trump administration expanded visa restrictions on six more countries–Eritrea, Kyrgyzstan, Myanmar, Nigeria, Sudan and Tanzania–citing screening and national security concerns in those countries. Nationals of thirteen countries are currently subject to various travel restrictions."

https://immigrationhistory.org/item/muslim-travel-ban/#:~:text=The%20%22Muslim%20Ban%22%20refers%20to,from%20select%20predominately%20Muslim%20countries.

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forumposter123@protonmail.com's avatar

They don't accept that the problem is the genetics and not the religion.

Many Muslim immigrants in Europe effectively abandon their religion within a generation, but they are still violent low IQs. You don't have to be a mosque going religious fanatic to hate Jews and like raping women. Many of the Muslims doing these things don't practice their religion very much.

And so this idea that "we can import a bunch of Muslims and assimilate them" sounds like some kind of solution.

The race, not the religion, is the primary problem.

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Eugine Nier's avatar

> Remember that in the terror-scare years; Dawkins, Sam Harris and Bill Maher all publicly punctured liberal sacred victim-hood narratives about peaceful Muslims.

And then they concluded that they needed to focus all their efforts on attacking Christianity.

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Rightful Freedom's avatar

Maybe the "New Atheists" weren't really the new atheists. They were really just the new leftists. Co-opting atheism to use in their leftist religion.

(Meanwhile, most of the old atheists were libertarians, i.e. the old Ron Paul libertarians, not the new Reason-magazine LGBTQ+ libertarians.)

Evidence for the truism that all systems of human interaction slide left over time?

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Steve the Builder's avatar

I think your basic mistake is that you didn't realise that Bill Maher and Sam Harris are narcisstic pieces of shit and that everything they do is going to be destructive.

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CernelJoson's avatar

The only principle Leftists operate under is a mad desire for European ethnicities to not exist. Any inconsistencies or contradictions in their supposed worldview are just subordinations of logic in service to that chief principle. This is the case whether they are a die hard Tankie Third Worldist or a meek DNC champagne socialist.

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